Notes not showing up in timeline view

Hey there!

Discovered this app a couple of days and really enjoying it so far. It is exactly what I have been looking for.

I have two comments:

(1) I really like the notes and photos feature and the fact that they appear under the place/transport. However I have noticed that at times some notes and photos do not appear in the timeline view or they appear it for a bit then disappear. Similarly when I go back to earlier dates in my timeline (eg. A week ago), a lot of the notes or photos do not appear at all. I can still however see the notes that I made when I press on the place itself. Is there anyway to make the notes/photos always appear in the timeline view?

(2) I have been running both the Arc Timeline and Arc Recorder app and 99% of time it’s really good & there are no data gaps. However yesterday, I had my first minor data gap from 1:30pm to 3:30pm. I received a notification from Arc Timeline at around 3:30pm that it had been shutdown by IOS. I’m not sure why Arc Timeline didn’t send me a notification earlier or why Arc Recorder didn’t take over. Is there anyway to fix this data gap or manually add places/time to fill it in?

Thanks in advance :slight_smile:

Hi @Krangle! Glad you’re liking the app!

For photos, they will load eventually - it’s just delayed sometimes to reduce energy/battery use, by avoiding querying the Photos database too frequently. Arc doesn’t copy or store your photos, it just asks the Photos app/database for photos that fall within the time ranges of each timeline item (and then filters them to only the ones that were taken at that location).

So for photos it’s just a matter of waiting for the timeline view to update after the app has asked the Photos database what photos are available. Sometimes when the timeline view updates it will clear out the visible photos from a Visit or Trip in the timeline, because that item has changed its start or end time, so the selection of matching photos will potentially need to be different. That’s when you’ll sometimes see them disappear then reappear.

For notes not appearing… that’s a different matter, and one I’m not aware of! The notes are actually stored in Arc’s database, so they’re not separate like photos. And they’re loaded up at the same time as the timeline view updates. So… they should always appear!

Which means there’s some case that I’m not aware of - I haven’t seen it happen that notes would fail to appear in the timeline list view but do appear on the item details view. That’s new to me! In which case we’ll need to figure out what the conditions are where that’s happening. If you can spot anything distinct or different about those cases, that would be a big help in the detective work!

For this one, that’s the nature of the beast unfortunately. Arc can’t send you a notification when it gets terminated. Being terminated means it’s gone - it can’t do anything. And there’s no warning about being terminated, so it couldn’t send a notification moments before it happens either.

Which means the way those notifications work is kind of a “dead man’s switch”. The notification is submitted an hour or so earlier, and set with a delivery time of an hour or so later. Then while the app is still alive it updates that notification periodically (perhaps every few minutes), to set the delivery time a few minutes later. That way there’s always a notification submitted for delivery, but is delivery time is always in the future.

Then if the app does get terminated, it’s not there to change that delivery time anymore, so the notification will eventually end up getting delivered, an hour or so later. The old “dead man’s switch” trick, where the bomb doesn’t go off as long as the person is alive and holding their finger on the switch.

The reason it’s set about an hour into the future is because sometimes iOS will briefly stop doing some things for apps (like updating notification delivery requests), even when the app hasn’t been terminated. So there’s risk of the notification getting delivered even when the app is still alive. Setting it to be delivered an hour into the future makes the chance of that happening much less likely.

There’s also cases where the app might be terminated then restarted automatically within a short period of time. That might mean there was no data gap to worry about (eg it happened overnight while you were asleep and there was no movement to record). Getting a notification for that would be just annoying noise.

There’s no way to fill in the gap with created data. But if it was during a period where you weren’t going anywhere, you can edit the data gap item and set its type to “stationary”, which will force it to be merged into the adjacent Visit item.

That’s useful for cases like the app being terminated while you’re at home. So for example the timeline looks like “home → data gap → home”. You know you were at home the whole time, so it might as well get all merged together. Changing the data gap’s type to stationary will force it to be merged in, so that it ends up as just one single home visit.

Which means there’s some case that I’m not aware of - I haven’t seen it happen that notes would fail to appear in the timeline list view but do appear on the item details view. That’s new to me! In which case we’ll need to figure out what the conditions are where that’s happening. If you can spot anything distinct or different about those cases, that would be a big help in the detective work!

I’m seeing this in my timeline sometimes too. Here’s an example of a timeline with an item (Comedy Theatre) that is not showing its note in the timeline view, but is showing it in the details view:

Hm. Also super weird! I can’t reproduce this here on my phone, nor spot any reason why it would happen. But there it is in your screenshots!

What happens if you swipe the app closed and relaunch it? I wonder if for some reason the timeline view is only partially loading. The notes are loaded separately from the other content, so typically appear just after the main details have loaded. Maybe something is slowing down or blocking the notes loading in some cases…

On a fresh launch of the app, when I navigate to the day with that entry, it initially displays without the note, but then when the view refreshes with the photos the note also appears at the same time.

Once the note is visible, if I tap the entry to view its details, then hit Back to return to the timeline view, the timeline refreshes with the note missing again (but the photos remain on the screen), then several seconds later the note reappears again.

Hm. I think that sounds correct then. Though the delay in notes appearing should be so brief that it’s not noticeable. It sounds like it’s not that brief in your experience. Which means something’s slowing it down. I’m not sure what that is!

Arc Timeline app itself is in maintenance mode now, with the new Arc Editor app being prepared to replace it. So I’ll do some testing in Arc Editor to make sure notes are loading appropriately fast in that app.

There should also be a new Arc Editor TestFlight build ready this week that supports iOS 26’s new Liquid Glass styling, with much improved toolbar buttons and menus.

Look forward to trying out Arc Editor the next time there is room in the TestFlight.

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